David Ibsen of the Counter Extremism Project focuses on the new generation of white supremacists in France | James and Tom discuss whether Marine Le Pen should keep her appointment with a government psychiatrist
A new generation of far-right Europeans is deploying slick techniques to avoid being called neo-Nazis. David Ibsen, the executive director of the Counter Extremism Project, says far-right groups in France are among those to have borrowed heavily from a playbook developed by white supremacists in the United States. First, James and Tom discuss Marine le Pen’s refusal to undergo a psychiatric test. If the leader of the French far-right is a little crazy, what kind of crazy is she?