Marine le Pen, far-right, extremismA new generation of far-right Europeans is deploying slick techniques to avoid being called neo-Nazis.

David Ibsen, the executive director of the Counter Extremism Project, says far-right groups in France are among those to have borrowed heavily from a playbook developed by white supremacists in the United States.

First, James and Tom discuss Marine le Pen’s refusal to undergo a psychiatric test. If the leader of the French far-right is a little crazy, what kind of crazy is she?

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